bona natural seal on white oak

Yes, Trump2 I agree. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. Attached is a photo of the hardwood unfinished without stain. The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. WebOld worn white oak floors get a makover with Provincial stain to achieve a warm medium toned brown. They should be able to get the job done for you. I wish we did three coats of the Traffic HD as he have a ton of traffic (three kids and a dog!) We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. I'm sorry you felt diminished. Ill post more pictures when I get back to the house. https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. AhemRight??? Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. Natural came in too natural or raw (though thats what I thought I wanted). I wish I could do it myself or delete the rude and negative comments. @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). It must be sanded down and done again. Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. For a house your size and a $50k budget. (Ive read LOTS of old posts!). They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. Just seemed so right. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. It should have had one extra coat of protectant. All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). It was applied Saturday morning.". @Moran Blueshtein. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. Here are our raw floors right now. think it turned out well. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. Anyway, good luck. I was asked two separate questions. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. Thanks again! I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? We are wrapping up our new build and the floor stain choice was today. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? @Ryan Danielson, I just told my cabinet maker to go ahead and order my cabinet doors in the rift oak so I've only got a couple of weeks to get this figured out. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. It was light and made the room appear larger. I DEFINITELY reccomend reading reviews for fabricators before choosing who you'll use . Start reaching out to those stores that have 25+ years in the hardwood flooring industry. Looking at your photos, I love the look of your kitchen. Thank you! Hd and Supra extra matte does not. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? Is there another more affordable option I can try? Heres a close up. We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. Your floors are beautiful. Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. Seems quite excessive but want to make sure I understand before I bring this issue up. Thank you. WebBona NordicSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer that is formulated to provide a green alternative to a whitewashed floor without the use of caustic materials such as bleach. if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. The instructions on the bottle is straight forward. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. what made you decide to go with natural. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. It was not supportive or helpful. Matte looks a bit dull. Some 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. It was one coat of seal. I am trying to figure out the same for my rift oak cabinets. @Gilligan GehrityI am lucky (at least where I live) to have a cabinet maker who #1 will fit me into their schedule and #2 is willing to learn a method to satisfy my requests. Shaina.. White Macaubas is a true Quartzite not a granite. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. I'll be sure to question about their history with using bona in the past. How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. Milesi Natural 2k? It is not the homeowner's fault that the job was bid too low (but they did accept the bid)but it is now the homeowner's experience (part of the decision process of taking the low bid) to live through a full sand and refinish of a brand new floor. trump2 would love to see the final product and what you chose, if your floors are finished. I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. Whaaaaat???? Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. Its small enough, you should be able to manage it. I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. @Bongo. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. Different painters proposing different solutions to calcimine ceiling. Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. Thank you so much! I guess it could help but honestly unless someone has your exact home with your ecxat light it is still just a guess . @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? Really not read much about IntenSeal? They apply the product too thin and it sets up quicker than recommended. It is a work of art. You might want to do some reading regarding matt finish. They are one of my very favorite things in my (soon to be) new house. Dry finish. I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. Which one did you end up going with? Which means something is sitting on, grinding down, pressing into or just plain 'sitting on' your floors every second of every day. LOVE, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Its typically the primary color in gardens. Could my response be taken incorrectly? The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. Nordic seal has white pigments. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? Can you add some white to the Renner System? True Quartzite is higher on the mohl's scale of hardness then granite. Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? The main thing to worry about when it comes to Quartzite is if it is actually a true Quartzite. The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. Any ideas on stain/stain combos and sealants to make it happen? No way to maintain and they ALL show scratches very easily and I should know- I get called a lot because of it Help! Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. I know I've gone on for a while. Just just had solid white oak #2 flooring installed in my den. I asked him to bring natural finish tomorrow, Im torn between natural and classic. If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. Curtains will block the bookcase. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. We see it FAR to often (as in DAILY) on this forum. I'd say the Rubio Smoke 5% was warmer, more golden, while the Unico Smoke was a cooler wheat, but they were very very close. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. This is part and parcel of your payment. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. I have found some great inspirational pictures. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. Gravity works. How to protect the wood enough for kitchen cabinet use but 1. Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. Your floors are as important as your roof. The above comments are right. I could only post one photo at a time. Oil wax floor finishes are poor choices for cabnet finishes. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. @CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. We have 4 inch white oak installed, but I was reading through your post and have no clue where they are from. I think of a coat of sealant as 1/2 a coat of finish. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. Thanks. ! It will make the white oak whiter. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). For the finish, use a water-based product, not an oil-based product which can yellow from sun exposure over time. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? ?-- and liked playing around with it. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Their attention to detail. Your wood may take the coats differently than our wood. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. I absolutely love the floors. WebApplication of the sealer will alter the chemical structure of the porous sandstone or natural stone providing a excellent water repellent and stain resistant surface. I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. If others have experience with this product would love them to chime in. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information I think the choice will be between the Natural and the Classic Seal. Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? Imagine if that would have been quartz? Not sure if this is helpful but attached are picks of recently completed white oak with Bona natural seal followed by Bona traffic HD extra matte finish. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? It requires a special approach. The coating should not come up. A best fit can also include their 'interpretation' of your 'vision' (not theirs). How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout. True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. The finish guy said he put on 1.5 gal on the first coat of TrafficHD. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Then the installer goes over it a second time causing lap marks or white lines. I wish people would just post the actual products they use as there are a lot of great examples but no "recipes". WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. Web108K views 6 years ago. Same price as Barker, but more choices for color (I'm doing white uppers/rift oak lowers) and lots of help with my kitchen design. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. thanks, All! I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. It is the way it is normally done. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. And all the answers. I've tested their smoke reactive and their Baro reactive Both can be adjusted with water or their "clear" so that you can get varying tones. Intense seal will cast yellowing. The other two will give you more color. Houzz uses cookies and similar technologies to personalise my experience, serve me relevant content, and improve Houzz products and services. The white background wasnt a true white but it wasnt bad and the marbling was pretty. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! Photos would be helpful. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. It may come in other thicknesses too. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. The supplier may help you out. Any reputable stone dealer and fabricator should be able to tell you which are grainy Quartzites and which are Crystalline. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Here are pictures of Bona Natural and Traffic HD on white oak for anyone wondering, Gorgeous! The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. Getting gloomy from cool gray? Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. Just about the time I had to FINALLY make a decision (about a year later than when I started due to the architects goof ups and COVID shut downs), the Corian fabricator sent me a couple 4x4 samples of Glacier White. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. We also added the clerestory windows like you did. He installed the floors beautifully, but installed red oak even though I showed him a sample of pre-finished white stained white oak. Absolutely, I can see that. Not the best lighting. . So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. We got to see snippets of the finished floor today, and we love what we see. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). It didnt seem to show the variations in the wood, light to dark, etc, grain, etc. Its for a new build. I did a lot of research before deciding on what product to use and how many top coats to use. The natural tones of the wood will allow the rest of the space to look it's best. I have read so many wood floor horror stories. It seems much darker than the close up picture with the paper removed Just wondering which is closer to what you see in person? The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochrans in Virginia). My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with. NordicSeal is going to give you a white frosting. Is this permissible to use on cabinets. The 'raw' look is a special look. That means a coat of Sealant and two coats of finish. Our floors were recently finished I havent seen them yet. Let's see how long this finish last. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. The people there were very patient with us and very helpful. Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. @j, @ Renee, It is satin. Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. Can you share the color? Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. You can get a natural matte finish in medium- light tones with the colors mist, natural, white 5%, white, and cotton white. The NordicSeal is a great product for red oak it safely bleaches the wood and removes the harsh red tones. Has anyone applied the Bona Nordic and HD to white oak stair partsnewel posts/rails ? If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. 1,303 views Oct 22, 2020 We originally sanded this floor almost 20 years ago, this time the customer wanted a much lighter color. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. So hand rail and newl postadvice would be appreciated! Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. They look closer to the raw wood tone. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. I agree that Bona Natural or Bona Classic will likely be what we choose. White oak seems to be kind of tricky. When I get to see them, Ill post pics. @Renee Czeryba, my advice: when you test put sealer and finish on top to see how it is really going to look. Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. Thank you for your feedback. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. No one does work for free. . ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . Try this color if you want a darker shade. I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. I could also put hot pots on the stainless. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. They are not the same color as my white oak, but shes happy with them. We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. We didnt get the fumed product because we couldnt know for sure what color the finished product would be. I also read you dont want to go too thin. I appreciate your pros helping on all these questions. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. is the only way to go. Im torn between satin and matte, We didn't move in yet so I cannot comment on it . Each to their own. The light white washing will give you the raw look. G & S isn't bashing you, they are bashing the 'dudes' in the industry. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). Any help appreciated! Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer. On their reactive stains and waxes: You can buy a sampler pack of both, or individual bottles. The pillow is from our sofa. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. I am sorry , Thank you!! Yeah, thats what I am realizing. We want to stay away from adding a yellow, green, pink or orange tint to the floor. It could be as low as $2/sf. There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. Im trying to stay with the natural look. Hi everyone! Ryan - where did you purchase your Milesi? Thanks so very much Shannon. Ask for Bona Mega One. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. If you look for darker colors, you will see fewer color shades in the wood planks. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. I think we can make Traffic HD work in our budget if we hold off on a few things and I can convince my husband. Bona nordicseal is greenguard certified for indoor air quality. Nice, eh?! Thanks so much! I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. The FASTEST curing water based products are Bona Traffic HD and Loba 2K Supra AT. Use two coats of natural seal and two coats of naturale. Granite and Quartzite have completely different make-ups. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). The chemical composition of natural stones will affect their performance in your home so it's important you have this information. Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. NO true Quartzite will etch. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. Ryan Danielson and Angela Watkins did either of you find a solution to achieve the natural white oak finish you were looking for? My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? One other question. Those are STUNNING! That's when we discovered he had never used water basedand that was the light-bulb moment for everyone.

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